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		<title>By: mooeypoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mooeypoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that&#039;s what I did... is there any &quot;proof&quot; for the flatness of the Earth that disproves all the points I made? Do show, if there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that&#8217;s what I did&#8230; is there any &#8220;proof&#8221; for the flatness of the Earth that disproves all the points I made? Do show, if there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=13876.0

If you feel you have definitive proof the earth is not flat without understanding Flat Earth Theory, I&#039;d like to hear it.</description>
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<p>If you feel you have definitive proof the earth is not flat without understanding Flat Earth Theory, I&#8217;d like to hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuckyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I made a mistake in the sentence &quot;Why is it there’s a huge difference between the intellectual level of human and primates?&quot;  I was trying to say human and other primates according to your scientific definition.  

The key point I was trying to say are: 
1 Humans and apes are from different ancestors even they appear to be similar in the eyes of some scientists. If your scientific knowledge insists you and chimps or bonobos are of the same family or sub family, you are welcome to believe so but we are pretty sure our ancestors were not coming from the same family as the chimps and bonobos. Please don&#039;t ask me why.  
 
2. Science may not be 100% correct. Sometimes they are just the theory of a handful scientists who happened to know more than the majority. Time and time again many so called scientific facts had turned out to be wrong. E.g. are the flat earth theory in the old days, Pluto as a planet, etc. The more powerful tools and data we got, the more we get closer to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I made a mistake in the sentence &#8220;Why is it there’s a huge difference between the intellectual level of human and primates?&#8221;  I was trying to say human and other primates according to your scientific definition.  </p>
<p>The key point I was trying to say are:<br />
1 Humans and apes are from different ancestors even they appear to be similar in the eyes of some scientists. If your scientific knowledge insists you and chimps or bonobos are of the same family or sub family, you are welcome to believe so but we are pretty sure our ancestors were not coming from the same family as the chimps and bonobos. Please don&#8217;t ask me why.  </p>
<p>2. Science may not be 100% correct. Sometimes they are just the theory of a handful scientists who happened to know more than the majority. Time and time again many so called scientific facts had turned out to be wrong. E.g. are the flat earth theory in the old days, Pluto as a planet, etc. The more powerful tools and data we got, the more we get closer to the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: nandec</title>
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		<dc:creator>nandec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s the distance in kilometer if a man with the height of 1.7m stand on sea to the point of the sightview limit of the earth&#039;s curvature?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the distance in kilometer if a man with the height of 1.7m stand on sea to the point of the sightview limit of the earth&#8217;s curvature?</p>
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		<title>By: Bendix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bendix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of? but not all? lol..... O.K.  so what is your&#039;e point? because what ever it is it definitely does not disprove my point...... Flat earthers should stop seeking attention and seek a cure for cancer or sumthing with all that spare time.....

Ciao losers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of? but not all? lol&#8230;.. O.K.  so what is your&#8217;e point? because what ever it is it definitely does not disprove my point&#8230;&#8230; Flat earthers should stop seeking attention and seek a cure for cancer or sumthing with all that spare time&#8230;..</p>
<p>Ciao losers</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people believe their ancestors are apes, why then their scientific name is different from us. Why didn’t apes classify as homo sapiens? 

Genetically speaking, you want the work Chimps, and to be technical, the Bonobo. That&#039;s like asking why we don&#039;t call dogs feline or birds canine. They aren&#039;t the same thing, and unless you&#039;ve been hanging out in a jungle eating bugs from your family, then I don&#039;t think you&#039;re a chimp. Primates are part of the family Hominidae, with Gorillas (gorilla), Humans (homo), and chimps (pan) all being part of the same sub family. The genus seperation is for pretty obvious reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people believe their ancestors are apes, why then their scientific name is different from us. Why didn’t apes classify as homo sapiens? </p>
<p>Genetically speaking, you want the work Chimps, and to be technical, the Bonobo. That&#8217;s like asking why we don&#8217;t call dogs feline or birds canine. They aren&#8217;t the same thing, and unless you&#8217;ve been hanging out in a jungle eating bugs from your family, then I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re a chimp. Primates are part of the family Hominidae, with Gorillas (gorilla), Humans (homo), and chimps (pan) all being part of the same sub family. The genus seperation is for pretty obvious reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, most of the close up images from google earth are taken from low altitude planes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, most of the close up images from google earth are taken from low altitude planes.</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuckyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mooeypoo, 

You didn&#039;t get my last question clearly otherwise you would have understand that I believe Darwin&#039;s evolution is also wrong. That&#039;s what I am saying, I am discarding both because they use the same scientific methodology namely near-sighted. 

Flat earth was very evidence at their time and knowledge. If someone never traveled far at their time, skies to them were more understood as mythology  than coordination of the planets.  The ground of their great empire underneath them was flat because their measurement of &quot;their flat earth&quot; was limited by their thinking and knowledge. They were probably right at their time and place, but the earth underneath them does not represent the Earth we known today.  Because our knowledge of sky today is beyond our own planet.
 
Change the &quot;earth&quot; into &quot;time&quot; and expand it in the above explanation, you would understand why Darwin\s theory of evolution is the flat earth equivalent of the formation of living things on earth.

Would someone understand Darwin&#039;s theory of evolution answer my above question why primates choose to be primates rather than humankind after millions of years. If people believe their ancestors are apes, why then their scientific name is different from us. Why didn&#039;t apes classify as homo sapiens? 

Why is it there&#039;s a huge difference between the intellectual level of human and primates? Ok, The answer is the brain. But what makes brains of different species so different if they all originated from single cell organism living on the same earth for millions of  years? 

What determine the branching of species among highly intellectual species? Why can&#039;t  you find a living example of apes at the transition stage into human somewhere in the secluded forest? 

Until today those believe in Darwin&#039;s evolution still can not resolve the missing link and they just come out with whatever conjecture. Trying whatever unfounded bits and pieces trying to fill the missing link  Otherwise they would not call it the &quot;missing link&quot; but some terms more concrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mooeypoo, </p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t get my last question clearly otherwise you would have understand that I believe Darwin&#8217;s evolution is also wrong. That&#8217;s what I am saying, I am discarding both because they use the same scientific methodology namely near-sighted. </p>
<p>Flat earth was very evidence at their time and knowledge. If someone never traveled far at their time, skies to them were more understood as mythology  than coordination of the planets.  The ground of their great empire underneath them was flat because their measurement of &#8220;their flat earth&#8221; was limited by their thinking and knowledge. They were probably right at their time and place, but the earth underneath them does not represent the Earth we known today.  Because our knowledge of sky today is beyond our own planet.</p>
<p>Change the &#8220;earth&#8221; into &#8220;time&#8221; and expand it in the above explanation, you would understand why Darwin\s theory of evolution is the flat earth equivalent of the formation of living things on earth.</p>
<p>Would someone understand Darwin&#8217;s theory of evolution answer my above question why primates choose to be primates rather than humankind after millions of years. If people believe their ancestors are apes, why then their scientific name is different from us. Why didn&#8217;t apes classify as homo sapiens? </p>
<p>Why is it there&#8217;s a huge difference between the intellectual level of human and primates? Ok, The answer is the brain. But what makes brains of different species so different if they all originated from single cell organism living on the same earth for millions of  years? </p>
<p>What determine the branching of species among highly intellectual species? Why can&#8217;t  you find a living example of apes at the transition stage into human somewhere in the secluded forest? </p>
<p>Until today those believe in Darwin&#8217;s evolution still can not resolve the missing link and they just come out with whatever conjecture. Trying whatever unfounded bits and pieces trying to fill the missing link  Otherwise they would not call it the &#8220;missing link&#8221; but some terms more concrete.</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuckyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, with a powerful telescope, a gigantic ship so that the size of the ship compares to the earth is proportional to an ant to an average size orange. Then, it&#039;s a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, with a powerful telescope, a gigantic ship so that the size of the ship compares to the earth is proportional to an ant to an average size orange. Then, it&#8217;s a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: mooeypoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mooeypoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LucyGuy,

The point of this observation is simple: If you look at the horizon through binoculars, you will first see the top of the sail, then the rest of the ship emerges, as if it pops out of the water. This is a very simple experiment to do on your own.

This means that the world is round, quite simply. There is no other way to explain it, other than perhaps that ships drown and resurface when they come close to the beach, which is evidenced as .. well.. false. 

No offense, but your opinion here doesn&#039;t matter. Science doesn&#039;t go by opinions, it goes by experiments and observations. The observations are different than your opinion. The observations are ALWAYS the same, without a single exception. That makes your opinion quite clearly wrong.

Experiments WERE done, and showed that ships seem to &quot;pop out&quot; of the water. This is something you can see for yourself.. find a pier close to you and bring binoculars. Look at ships leaving towards the horizon (it will be simpler than waiting for a random ship to approach). If you do it enough times, you will see this phenomenon happening in front of you, and the ships will look like they&#039;re sinking into the water.

If you have video equipment, it might even be easier, as you can just record a few hours worth of ships coming and going and see for yourself.

~moo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LucyGuy,</p>
<p>The point of this observation is simple: If you look at the horizon through binoculars, you will first see the top of the sail, then the rest of the ship emerges, as if it pops out of the water. This is a very simple experiment to do on your own.</p>
<p>This means that the world is round, quite simply. There is no other way to explain it, other than perhaps that ships drown and resurface when they come close to the beach, which is evidenced as .. well.. false. </p>
<p>No offense, but your opinion here doesn&#8217;t matter. Science doesn&#8217;t go by opinions, it goes by experiments and observations. The observations are different than your opinion. The observations are ALWAYS the same, without a single exception. That makes your opinion quite clearly wrong.</p>
<p>Experiments WERE done, and showed that ships seem to &#8220;pop out&#8221; of the water. This is something you can see for yourself.. find a pier close to you and bring binoculars. Look at ships leaving towards the horizon (it will be simpler than waiting for a random ship to approach). If you do it enough times, you will see this phenomenon happening in front of you, and the ships will look like they&#8217;re sinking into the water.</p>
<p>If you have video equipment, it might even be easier, as you can just record a few hours worth of ships coming and going and see for yourself.</p>
<p>~moo</p>
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